[civil unrest & political implications] Kenosha

"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction) 08/26/2020 at 11:45 • Filed to: None

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Another innocent !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! black man shot by police (thankfully he lived...).

More protests that sadly turned violent/destructive (two killed).

My fear is that continued incidents like these will actually make it more likely that Trump will be re-elected... Fear is a powerful force, and the events of last night played right into the hands of th ose attempting to sow anxiety in the hearts of the American people.

This is how dictatorships begin...

This is from a 2013 article:

Bad economic policies and foreign policies can cause crises that have dangerous political consequences.

Politicians commonly demand arbitrary power to deal with a national emergency and restore order, even though underlying problems are commonly caused by bad government policies.

In hard times, many people are often willing to go along with and support terrible things that would be unthinkable in good times.

Those who dismiss the possibility of a dictatorial regime in America need to consider possible developments that could make our circumstances worse and politically more volatile than they are now – like runaway government spending, soaring taxes, more wars, inflation and economic collapse.

Aspiring dictators sometimes give away their intentions by their evident desire to destroy opponents.

There’s no reliable way to prevent bad or incompetent people from gaining power.

A political system with a separation of powers and checks & balances – like the U.S. Constitution – does make it more difficult for one branch of government to dominate the others.

Ultimately, liberty can be protected only if people care enough to fight for it, because everywhere governments push for more power, and they never give it up willingly.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 12:05

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I personally have some pretty somber thoughts on how things are gonna look soon.

boredalways > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/26/2020 at 12:10

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...go on...

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 12:11

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Nah, I keep that shit suppressed . Nobody likes a debbie downer.

avalonian > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/26/2020 at 12:18

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I'd like to hear it tbh.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > avalonian 08/26/2020 at 12:19

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I mean, just what will happen. Increased tension, increased political uncertainty , the economy shitting the bed and COVID going crazy.

Just Jeepin' > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/26/2020 at 12:20

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May you live in interesting times.

fintail > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/26/2020 at 12:21

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It’s going to be a long cold winter.

But things will be great again soon!

fintail > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 12:24

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The first and third to the last points in that list are playing out right now. But no soaring taxes due to trickle down lies, so we have that anyway.

Let’s see how Russian comment troll farms use social media to whip the simps into a frenzy t his year.

Don’t defund the police, but it might be time to crush police unions.

boredalways > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 12:26

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Dave, I’m seriously impressed — slowly closing in on 100 views as of this post and no one harassing you to add [politics] and a buffer image

On the real, I don’t think this will be the last event before the election. To keep it simple, this is what happens when people don’t vote and for some that did, refuse to take responsibility for their error in judgement.

Also, this:

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boredalways > fintail 08/26/2020 at 12:29

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“ But things will be great again soon!”

Sure, as soon as the pot and cocaine arrives

Thomas Donohue > Just Jeepin' 08/26/2020 at 12:31

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I always think of the scene in ‘Disclosure’, with Donald Sutherland quoting that proverb (though it’s origins are murky).

boredalways > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/26/2020 at 12:32

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I hate to break it to you, but all of what you just typed IS already happening right now and too many people are just too distracted to notice.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 12:34

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I think it will become center stage.

Meantime, buy TP and bullets lol

Just Jeepin' > Thomas Donohue 08/26/2020 at 12:35

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Don’t think I’ve seen it, but I love me some Sutherland.

boredalways > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/26/2020 at 12:37

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Depends on what “news” source people trust.

I have my TP already, but you are more than welcome to bullets I won't be purchasing.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 12:38

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I personally just read the BBC and occasionally my local paper or CBC news.

I would hardly call anything coming from a US source “news” these days. Sometimes I go to more “niche” sites like Warzone on The Drive or the Intercept

Also, I’ll pass on the bullets, but I can understand the desire for them these days.

Sometimes its comforting to feel like you’re trying to be proactive, even if it doesn’t mean shit in the end.

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 12:42

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Sheboygan

I just like saying Sheboygan.

Sheboygan.

boredalways > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/26/2020 at 12:43

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Unfortunately, the best ‘Murica has is PBS, NPR, and ProPublica.  I, too, love the BBC and The Guardian.

DipodomysDeserti > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 12:44

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Interesting use of surgical gloves. Not a good idea if you’re looking to commit crimes as they sometimes transfer prints.

shop-teacher > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 13:08

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I actually have the opposite opinion. Continued unrest makes him less and less likely to get reelected. All this happened under his watch, and people are sick of this crap.

Maybe I’m just a relentless optimist, but faith in humanity is what keeps me going.

BigBlock440 > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 13:49

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Not a “spree” until he was knocked in the head with a skateboard.

RacinBob > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 14:00

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Here is what I read on BBC.com, There was “an open arrest warrant against Mr Blake on sexual assault and domestic abuse charges” . I do not want to shame Mr Blake but I mention it as it does explain why he wasn’t cooperative with the officers and was attempting to leave by any means necessary. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53917170

And it leads to this question. If 0.1% of the attempted detentions of wanted people leads to events such as this, what do we want street police to do when the wanted suspect does not voluntarily cooperate in their apprehension?

Let everybody go?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 14:22

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I figured no image would preclude a buffer image, and figured [politics] was somewhat implied, but I’ll add it. Thanks for keeping me honest. =)

I was wondering when they’d find a photo of the guy; I’d only seen the side view of him running. It’s been confirmed that he’s the shooter?

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: 08/26/2020 at 14:24

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Walla Walla, Washington

Djibouti

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > shop-teacher 08/26/2020 at 14:25

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I hope you’re right, but worry it could go the other way.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > RacinBob 08/26/2020 at 14:29

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Thanks for clarifying. I thought he was innocent in the situation that brought police there, but I’m not 100% certain of that either. The fact that his kids were in the car also adds deep sadness to this whole situation.

If they were going to detain him, and legally had the right to do so , t he officers should have used force to prevent him from re-entering his car, just not deadly force...

DipodomysDeserti > RacinBob 08/26/2020 at 14:30

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If you’re a grown man, and you can’t detain an unarmed man without shooting them in the back several times, maybe law enforcement isn’t the right career for you.

Bringing someone in just to be arraigned should not result in them being shot.

Mercedes Streeter > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 14:32

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Even more crazy is when you read about the kid that killed the two protesters. He’s 17, lives in Illinois (so not from Kenosha at all), joined up with a “militia” with an illegal firearm, then killed two and injured one. The cops seemed to be okay with the militia, but clearly didn’t want the militia killing people.

Currently he’s being charged with murder.

Mercedes Streeter > DipodomysDeserti 08/26/2020 at 14:34

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It’s even worse than that. Since he’s 17 and therefore not legally able to own a gun, that rifle definitely belongs to someone else . And since he isn’t even a resident of Wisconsin he had even less reason to be there in the first place.

slipperysallylikespenguins > RacinBob 08/26/2020 at 14:36

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This is what can happen when a criminal makes it back to the car.

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davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Mercedes Streeter 08/26/2020 at 14:39

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Damn.

Good. Glad they found him, at least. What a nightmare...

shop-teacher > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 14:40

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I can’t say I haven’t worried about it going the other way myself, but I’m trying to remain positive.  We can only control what we can control.  I will be voting on November 3rd come hell or high water.

Milky > BigBlock440 08/26/2020 at 14:41

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Pretty insane to see a kid shoot someone then cops roll right on by him. 

The Snowman > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 14:47

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The city so nice they named it twice.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > BigBlock440 08/26/2020 at 14:55

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“ fled the scene to surrender to the police” For what? Is this before or after the initial shooting?

He’s been charged with first-degree intentional homicide.

No idea if or how “stand your ground” laws apply when you’re out of state, attempting to act in an extrajudicial manner...

What did he expect to happen that night?

“We don’t have non-lethal.”

MrSnrub > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 15:03

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I saw a tweet this morning that really crystallized things for me:

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The instigating event is incidental at best; arguing over whether the shooting of Blake was justified (it wasn’t) is missing the point completely . The system is incapable of reforming itself.

fintail > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: 08/26/2020 at 15:10

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Humptulips

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MrSnrub 08/26/2020 at 15:13

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If that last sentence is truly what you believe, then how does this play out...?

RacinBob > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 15:16

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I haven’t watched the video, just like I don’t actively watch fighter gun camera films, fatal race wrecks, etc. They are all just sad. So I can’t judge this event.

I do try to be sympathetic to any officer who is attempting to not take the first bullet while doing their duty.   However I am just as sympathetic with Floyd, Blake, and the victim in St Louis. None of those guys wanted to be arrested and t he result is d ead men , burned cities and the police officers in jail for likely years.  

I think officers will get the message and the next time a perp tries to run, more and more they will let him go. My cousin shoots with a now retired NYC officer. The officer is retired because a perp broke his back in a struggle. When my cousin asked the officer what would he do with an angry crowd that is looting and rioting, he said today he would “just smile and wave”. I am afraid to say I think we better get used to it.

By the way, isn’t that what happened in downtown Chicago during their riots a couple of weeks ago ?

LastFirstMI is my name > shop-teacher 08/26/2020 at 15:18

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I’m an optimist too, but watching the news lately  is like reading Mussolini’s biography.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Milky 08/26/2020 at 15:19

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Looks like was ready to surrender himself to authorities, but he wasn’t taken into custody until this morning...

What a stupid child... What did he think would happen by putting himself in this situation ? Now several lives are ruined, including his own.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > fintail 08/26/2020 at 15:20

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That’s a new one (to me).

DipodomysDeserti > Mercedes Streeter 08/26/2020 at 15:21

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Yeah, this kid is not going to do well in prison. Better hit the ‘ roids, the gym and the tattoo parlor while he’s awaiting trial. God, I’d be so pissed if someone who looked like that shot me.

Milky > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 15:24

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I mean, to state the obvious the cops weren’t looking for a white kid with a AR. Pretty terrible situation that h e went there to “protect” something with probably his parent’s gun. Couldn’t have gone much worse then a kid going to jail and a couple people dead.

boredalways > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 15:26

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No, I was hoping you would leave the post AS-IS on purpose*. As for the suspect, he’s been arrested.

https://www.scribd.com/document/473738125/People-v-Kyle-Rittenhouse

I guess Antioch, IL isn’t a nice enough suburb anymore.

https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse/

fintail > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 15:27

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Gotta love WA state place names:

BigBlock440 > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 15:30

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I assume after, but didn’t find anything specific on it.  Definitely wasn’t a good idea on his part, and the ending was not exactly unpredictable. 

boredalways > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/26/2020 at 15:33

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Dude, don't post whataboutisms from James Woods, Curt Shillings, and the likes.  THEY ARE BIGOTED TROLLS.

slipperysallylikespenguins > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 15:35

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Hmmm, I thought you lived on whataboutisms.

Mercedes Streeter > DipodomysDeserti 08/26/2020 at 15:38

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Sadly he lives somewhat local to me. Kid was a part of the explorer program with his town’s PD and apparently has claimed a few times to be an off duty police officer from the sheriff’s department . Oof. Illegal gun aside, he doesn’t have a good look. But there is video suggesting someone hit him with a skateboard first, so maybe he’ll get off on self defense.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > RacinBob 08/26/2020 at 15:38

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I usually avoid them, too...

Yes, it’s terribly hard to judge a person’s actions after the heat of the moment, but it’s hard not to look at this incident as another instance of police using unnecessary force. Blake clearly acted unwisely by not listening to the police officer’s directions, and I feel that perhaps the officers’ training failed them in this instance, in that all immediately went to pulling guns and shouting instead of one or two of them just physically restraining him or blocking the door to the car . As soon as a gun is drawn, the probability of it being used is far too high...

Police officers are absolutely being put in a terrible position right now (damned if they do, damned if they don’t). My co-worker’s husband is leaving the force after a decade, in no small part due to all of these events.

It’s a vicious cycle, in the truest sense of the phrase. 

boredalways > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 15:40

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Also, you should drop the “innocent* black man” line. It just adds fuel to the fire and you’re already getting posts unknowingly referencing far right wing nut jobs.

And to be clear, I'm not implying nor accusing any Oppo of being a far right wing nut job, but they may not be familiar with the backgrounds of the authors of their reference material.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > BigBlock440 08/26/2020 at 15:41

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There was a person fatally shot in another location (a car lot being vandalized) , so perhaps he was the shooter.

boredalways > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/26/2020 at 15:45

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No, I never have and never will. If you want to believe otherwise, go right ahead but  leave me out of it. I just didn’t want to see any Oppo mistakenly post anything from a far right wing nut job/trolls, especially if it was never their intent to make a civil/racial issue worse.

slipperysallylikespenguins > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 15:51

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I’m assuming you are referring to my James Woods Post. I am 100% aware of what he posts and I don’t care if it keeps Oppo from being an echo chamber.

DipodomysDeserti > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/26/2020 at 15:54

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Ah yes, one of the great legal resource s of our times, James Wood’s Twitter account.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 15:54

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What a tragic mess...

and 100 more > shop-teacher 08/26/2020 at 15:55

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I see it getting worse, then about mid-September or early October calls for “martial law” and Trump signing yet another executive order to detain and arrest protesters and looters, handing carte-blanche to the police. Then, he turns around and says “Look at what I did! I made the streets safer by taking the restraints off our boys in blue, and letting them crack down on these thugs!”

Boom, the Trump voter base is energized right before the election, the do-nothing, fence-sitting White people who worry more about a protest march blocking the road to the Walmart (however unlikely that may be) than about, uh, human fucking rights for people who aren’t them, will swing towards the new “law-and-order” stance that Trump just took, and there it is... FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS. Four more years of this shit.

Can’t believe the Dems picked Biden... way to throw a fight, dipshits.

slipperysallylikespenguins > DipodomysDeserti 08/26/2020 at 15:55

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It’s simply showing the sort of scenarios that are going through an officer’s mind in these situations.

and 100 more > shop-teacher 08/26/2020 at 15:56

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HA! And you’re in Texas. You may have both hell AND high water to contend with!

MrSnrub > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 15:57

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I guess the optimistic scenario would be a peaceful revolution like Tunisia in 2011, and the pessimistic scenario would be Syria. Probably something in between though. I wouldn’t be shocked by either a  dissolution of the Union or a military coup in the relatively near future.

DipodomysDeserti > RacinBob 08/26/2020 at 15:57

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I think officers will get the message and the next time a perp tries to run, more and more they will let him go.

No, they’ll just look around to make sure no one is filming before they shoot them. What world have you been living in where you think cops are going to start deescalating situations? My dad is “ friends” with a handful of retired NYPD officers. They still brag about shooting unarmed black people during various race riots over their careers.

and 100 more > fintail 08/26/2020 at 15:57

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So we’ve been told.

DipodomysDeserti > Milky 08/26/2020 at 15:59

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I mean, to state the obvious the cops weren’t looking for a white kid with a AR.

As a teacher, I find this pretty fucking hilarious. Yeah, no need to fear dorky white kids with carbines, they never go on shooting rampages!

DipodomysDeserti > shop-teacher 08/26/2020 at 16:03

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Trump was able to get people to vote for him who normally don’t vote. These people want to see stuff like this happen.

boredalways > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/26/2020 at 16:04

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Noted.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > MrSnrub 08/26/2020 at 16:08

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and i thought I was bleak. Can’t wait for Wexit in Canada and OR and WA breaking away so that BC, OR and WA can form the new nation of Cascadia

DipodomysDeserti > slipperysallylikespenguins 08/26/2020 at 16:09

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If that’s how you handle it, then you have no business carrying a firearm, let alone being a police officer. I have a god friend who is a cop who has been put in very sketchy situations without managing to kill anyone. He’s been a combat Marine most of his life, and actually knows how to handle himself, unlike many of these cops.

Got another friend with similar credentials who killed someone his first month on the job because he has severe PTSD and should have never been hired as a cop.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > DipodomysDeserti 08/26/2020 at 16:09

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bingo.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > RacinBob 08/26/2020 at 16:11

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I don’t mind watching gun fighting camera stuff because at least every party is a somewhat willing participant and conflict is an interesting aspect of the human condition.

I will never watch car accident stuff because that is a tragedy

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 16:11

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I believe he was innocent in the situation, but he did have a standing warrant; there’s a link to an article. I never should have written “innocent” in the first place, as that’s a value judgement with not enough information, so when I learned of the warrant, I added the detail.

Yes, always consider the source... but sometimes that’s the only source for certain raw video footage...

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > shop-teacher 08/26/2020 at 16:11

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I think only people in Texas have to worry about high water

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 16:19

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If you didn’t already watch it , l ook up Mercado Media on Fb and watch f rom 3:40:00 on...

There are some people shouting “he’s not the shooter” (of the initial person who was killed at the car lot). Whether or not that’s the case, I wonder if this was a case of mistaken identity and turned into an (armed) kid afraid for his life...

Why did he put himself in this situation? If you want to be a “medic”, don’t walk around with a firearm.

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MrSnrub > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 08/26/2020 at 16:23

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At least if there’s a secessionist movement in Canada it’s more likely to be peaceful. If something crazy happens like California threatening to secede over the election the tanks are definitely gonna roll in.

If Cascadia ever happens I’m totally moving there though.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MrSnrub 08/26/2020 at 16:23

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Hard to fathom this is possible, but I’ve never seen anything like this in my 40+ years. I hope Biden wins and we somehow figure out how to start the healing process.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > MrSnrub 08/26/2020 at 16:25

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I dunno.... Maybe more peaceful than an equivalent American one, but I’d chalk that up to mag limits lol.

we have a lot of issues here too.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > DipodomysDeserti 08/26/2020 at 16:26

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They do reduce  Gunpowder residue

MrSnrub > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 16:27

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I don’t put much hope in a Biden win personally . Revolutions are impossible until they happen and inevitable in hindsight, or something like that.

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BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > RacinBob 08/26/2020 at 16:34

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I am no expert, but it sounds like the police gave him as much leeway as they could, by NOT using force until the last possible moment... They let him get all the way to the point where he was reaching into a vehicle which could easily result in him obtaining a weapon there.

One might argue they should have used more non-lethal force earlier to subdue the suspect before he got to the point of reaching into his vehicle, where his children were.

Would riots and looting have erupted if he did grab a weapon, and fire on the police officers, and wound or kill them instead?

Not obeying lawful commands of law enforcement is a stupid game to play, whether police are wrong or right. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Fight in court after the arrest. Better yet, be a good citizen, and not a repeat offender who beats and sexually assaults people, and not get into that position in the first place...

I don’t support corruption, and corrupt police are a serious problem that should be dealt with just as harshly as aggravated criminal activity.

But criminal activity is not excused, be it an abusive person, or murderous and destructive rioters...

What’s next? drinking poison to prevent catching Covid? It makes about the same amount of sense as murder, arson, destruction, and rioting in reaction to any police use of force, justified or not.

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shop-teacher > LastFirstMI is my name 08/26/2020 at 16:40

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I believe our society and the constitution is strong enough to outlast the current situation.  We made it through Vietnam/the 60's, a time which IMO was a lot worse than what we’re going through now.

shop-teacher > and 100 more 08/26/2020 at 16:41

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You could be right, but I don’t think that’s how it will go down.

shop-teacher > and 100 more 08/26/2020 at 16:41

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No, I’m in Illinois.

shop-teacher > DipodomysDeserti 08/26/2020 at 16:42

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I’m aware of that, but I think a lot of people who voted for him, are quite unhappy with how things have gone.

boredalways > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 16:45

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I can’t understand why/how he ended up alone when he was already with a group to begin with (take note around the 30 second mark) :

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DipodomysDeserti > shop-teacher 08/26/2020 at 16:49

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We’ll certainly find out, but I don’t think that’s the case, especially with another Supreme Court nomination likely in the next four years.

BoxerFanatic, troublesome iconoclast. > MrSnrub 08/26/2020 at 16:50

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I agree with the tweet, this is a resulting trait of what has happened previously , not an instigating event.

Just as political corruption follows societal and cultural decay, not the other way around.

What I don’t agree with is the leap of logic that it cannot be fixed, or the concept that any “system” can correct itself. Of course not, that is a false premise.

But people encompass the system, the system only appears to encompass the people.

Moral, peaceful, compassionate, and truthful people can fix this, by returning the system to it’s proper role, and confining it there, and not expecting the “system” to be perfect, or to provide everything to everyone to the result of equivalent outcome.

That isn’t anything ANY system can do, or should be requested or expected to do, and to try it, is to court corruption and failure.

PEOPLE do, and people organize themselves into organizations and institutions, (referred to as “the system” ) to perform specific functions in society, within rules and enumerated duties to ensure law and order for peaceful interaction.

Without law and order, peace cannot succeed, because in a power vacuum, might makes right, and warlords, tyrants, and corruption rises. That is what happens when “the system” gets torn down by people who give up on keeping law and order, and the resulting peace.

DipodomysDeserti > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 08/26/2020 at 16:54

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Most of the residue from an AR is going to end up on your arm, which sits right below the ejection port.

and 100 more > shop-teacher 08/26/2020 at 16:57

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Huh, why did i think you were in Texas? Nevermind  then, lol!

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > BigBlock440 08/26/2020 at 16:58

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Reports are  the first shooting was in a parking lot. Then he ran away when he tripped. 

shop-teacher > and 100 more 08/26/2020 at 17:07

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I dunno :)

boredalways > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 08/26/2020 at 17:15

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You watched the FB from 03:40:00 to the end, right?  I feel bad for the militia guys that after seeing to video footage, they confirmed that the shooter was with them.  Here they are thinking we have been hired to protect some properties, only to find out one of their own just shot 3 people.

fintail > boredalways 08/26/2020 at 17:18

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But we gotta prevent that echo chamber lol.

Next up, material from Don Junior, Kim the Psycho, Stephen Miller, etc.

fintail > Milky 08/26/2020 at 17:20

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His parents are probably a big part of what messed him up.  Enablers, if not creators.  Apples and trees are often closely related.

Milky > fintail 08/26/2020 at 17:31

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I wonder what the legal course is if  they knowingly lent him the gun. Not to mention morally letting your kid goto a protest with a gun.

PS your comment was grayed out, you got dismissed too!

fintail > Milky 08/26/2020 at 17:52

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I suspect the parents are frothing at the mouth about the gangs of looters and thugs set to head out and terrorize their distant suburbs - probably not Biden or Berniebros lol. The kid probably didn’t learn it on his own or randomly pick it up online. I don’t know about the legalities, but their parenting should be reviewed.

Sad thing, the kid’s life is messed up now, even if a corrupt judge sets him free. There’s going to be a target on him. A certain regime is probably looking to appoint him to a cabinet position.

Someone lurking out there is really hurt for some reason. Must be another wannabe “militia” member looking for an excuse to shoot someone disguis ed by being “hired” to “protect property”.

RangerSmith > RacinBob 08/26/2020 at 18:41

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Sexual Assault of a minor. Please shame away.

Elumerere > fintail 08/26/2020 at 19:31

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It’s funny to me (sad really) how everyone here seems to talk about this guy as a ‘poor kid’ when he took an AR15, drove to the neighboring state and went onto the streets to cause trouble.

That’s the definition of a thug, in my book.

May he rot in prison.

boredalways > DipodomysDeserti 08/26/2020 at 19:32

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“ God, I’d be so pissed if someone who looked like that shot me.”

Especially with THOSE Crocs!

fintail > Elumerere 08/26/2020 at 19:44

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He went looking for a fight and found it, yet is somehow the victim.  It’s that logic of the so-called right that I just can’t grasp.

He might be safer in solitary than in many other places. This is the kind of thing that follows someone around, and maybe it should. His arrogance claimed a couple lives.